Johannine Comma and Frederick von Nolan - Revision history

Nick at 04:01, 4 May 2020

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	:"'instead of "the Father, Word, and Spirit,' the remaining passage would have been direct concessions to the Gnostics and Sabellians, who, in denying the personal difference of the Father and the Son, were equally obnoxious to those avowed adversaries, the Catholics and the Arians. Nor did the orthodox require these verses for the support of their cause; they had other passages which would accomplish all that they could effect; and without their aid, they maintained and established their tenents."<~~sup~~>3</~~sup~~>		:"'instead of "the Father, Word, and Spirit,' the remaining passage would have been direct concessions to the Gnostics and Sabellians, who, in denying the personal difference of the Father and the Son, were equally obnoxious to those avowed adversaries, the Catholics and the Arians. Nor did the orthodox require these verses for the support of their cause; they had other passages which would accomplish all that they could effect; and without their aid, they maintained and established their tenents."<small>An Inquiry Into The Integrity of the Greek Vulgate or Received Text of the New Testament, Rev. Frederick Nolan, 1815, pg. 278-279</small>

	Nolan gives two reasons why 1 John 5:7 is seemingly scanty in reference to quotations from the church fathers: One - The passage in I John 5:7 is among those like [[1 Timothy 3:16]] and Acts 20:28 that have all been tampered with in the manuscript tradition, all three having to do with the deity of Christ as "God." Two - That the major reason for not quoting 1 John 5:7 was based on its wording, chiefly, purporting Jesus Christ as the "Word" instead of the "Son." Hence, with the Sabellian heresy being debated that Jesus Christ is the Father with no distinction, 1 John 5:7 would further propagate that notion. Therefore it wasn't quoted.		Nolan gives two reasons why 1 John 5:7 is seemingly scanty in reference to quotations from the church fathers: One - The passage in I John 5:7 is among those like [[1 Timothy 3:16]] and Acts 20:28 that have all been tampered with in the manuscript tradition, all three having to do with the deity of Christ as "God." Two - That the major reason for not quoting 1 John 5:7 was based on its wording, chiefly, purporting Jesus Christ as the "Word" instead of the "Son." Hence, with the Sabellian heresy being debated that Jesus Christ is the Father with no distinction, 1 John 5:7 would further propagate that notion. Therefore it wasn't quoted.

Nick at 00:05, 4 May 2020

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 *199 Though the reading of the Greek Vulgate, τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα, is not to be tolerated; the reading of the Latin Vulgate, (from whence it is asserted [[1 John 5:7|1 Joh. v. 7]]. has crept into the ''Greek text'',) is grammatically correct; “''tres'' sunt qui testimonium dant, ''spiritus, aqua, et sanguis''.”
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Nick at 18:13, 3 May 2020

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	*199 Though the reading of the Greek Vulgate, τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα, is not to be tolerated; the reading of the Latin Vulgate, (from whence it is asserted [[1 John 5:7\|1 Joh. v. 7]]. has crept into the ''Greek text'',) is grammatically correct; “''tres'' sunt qui testimonium dant, ''spiritus, aqua, et sanguis''.”		*199 Though the reading of the Greek Vulgate, τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες, τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα, is not to be tolerated; the reading of the Latin Vulgate, (from whence it is asserted [[1 John 5:7\|1 Joh. v. 7]]. has crept into the ''Greek text'',) is grammatically correct; “''tres'' sunt qui testimonium dant, ''spiritus, aqua, et sanguis''.”
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