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Bryennios Citing the Comma

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	[[Joseph Bryennios]] (Ιωσήφ Βρυέννιος) (1350-1432) wrote in ''[http://digital.lib.auth.gr/record/124794/?ln=en Τόμος Β' / αξιώσει του Υψηλοτάτου και ευσεβεστάτου πρώην ηγεμόνος Μολδοβλαχίας Κυρίου Κυρίου Γρηγορίου Αλεξάνδρου Γκίκα Βοεβόδα δι' επιμελείας Ευγενίου διακόνου του Βουλγάρεως ήδη το πρώτον τύποις εκδοθέντα]'' ([[Joseph Bryennios\|Βρυέννιος, Ιωσήφ]]), [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]]. In which he cites the Johannine Comma:		[[Joseph Bryennios]] (Ιωσήφ Βρυέννιος) (1350-1432) wrote in ''[http://digital.lib.auth.gr/record/124794/?ln=en Τόμος Β' / αξιώσει του Υψηλοτάτου και ευσεβεστάτου πρώην ηγεμόνος Μολδοβλαχίας Κυρίου Κυρίου Γρηγορίου Αλεξάνδρου Γκίκα Βοεβόδα δι' επιμελείας Ευγενίου διακόνου του Βουλγάρεως ήδη το πρώτον τύποις εκδοθέντα]'' ([[Joseph Bryennios\|Βρυέννιος, Ιωσήφ]]), [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]]. In which he cites the Johannine Comma:

	:Καὶ τὸ πνεῦμά ἐστι μαρτυροῦν, ὅτι ὁ Χριστός ἐστιν ἡ ἀλήθεια. ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατὴρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον· καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι· καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῇ γῇ, τὸ πνεῦμα, τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα·<sup>[1]</sup>		:Καὶ τὸ πνεῦμά ἐστι μαρτυροῦν, ὅτι ὁ Χριστός ἐστιν ἡ ἀλήθεια. ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες '''<u>ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατὴρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον· καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι· καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες</u>''' ἐν τῇ γῇ, τὸ πνεῦμα, τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα·<sup>[1]</sup>
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	:'And it is the Spirit which beareth witness, because Christ is truth. For there are three which bear witness in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one; and there are three which bear witness on earth, the .Spirit, the Water, and the Blood. If we receive, &c'		:'And it is the Spirit which beareth witness, because Christ is truth. For there are three which bear witness '''<u>in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one; and there are three which bear witness</u>''' on earth, the .Spirit, the Water, and the Blood. If we receive, &c'

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	[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma Quotation 1768.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios in this [https://anemi.lib.uoc.gr/php/pdf_pager.php?rec=/metadata/3/8/a/metadata-18-0000008.tkl&do=84217.pdf&pageno=149&width=840&height=595&maxpage=295&lang=el 1768 reprint] by [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]].]]		[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma Quotation 1768.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios in this [https://anemi.lib.uoc.gr/php/pdf_pager.php?rec=/metadata/3/8/a/metadata-18-0000008.tkl&do=84217.pdf&pageno=149&width=840&height=595&maxpage=295&lang=el 1768 reprint] by [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]].]]

			''See Also [[Index of Johannine Comma articles]]'', ''[[1 John 5:7]]'' & ''[[1 John 5:8]]''.

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	[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3y0-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=%22%27And+it+is+the+Spirit+which+beareth+witness,+because+Christ+is+truth%22&source=bl&ots=00Z6wG2FDS&sig=ACfU3U363BS3Uzz2KFXm4XCoAXCh41qmhw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjln6_wrIrpAhUlzDgGHSdLBlwQ6AEwAHoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false]]]
	[[Joseph Bryennios]] (Ιωσήφ Βρυέννιος) (1350-1432) wrote in ''[http://digital.lib.auth.gr/record/124794/?ln=en Τόμος Β' / αξιώσει του Υψηλοτάτου και ευσεβεστάτου πρώην ηγεμόνος Μολδοβλαχίας Κυρίου Κυρίου Γρηγορίου Αλεξάνδρου Γκίκα Βοεβόδα δι' επιμελείας Ευγενίου διακόνου του Βουλγάρεως ήδη το πρώτον τύποις εκδοθέντα]'' ([[Joseph Bryennios\|Βρυέννιος, Ιωσήφ]]), [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]]. In which he cites the Johannine Comma:		[[Joseph Bryennios]] (Ιωσήφ Βρυέννιος) (1350-1432) wrote in ''[http://digital.lib.auth.gr/record/124794/?ln=en Τόμος Β' / αξιώσει του Υψηλοτάτου και ευσεβεστάτου πρώην ηγεμόνος Μολδοβλαχίας Κυρίου Κυρίου Γρηγορίου Αλεξάνδρου Γκίκα Βοεβόδα δι' επιμελείας Ευγενίου διακόνου του Βουλγάρεως ήδη το πρώτον τύποις εκδοθέντα]'' ([[Joseph Bryennios\|Βρυέννιος, Ιωσήφ]]), [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]]. In which he cites the Johannine Comma:

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	==[[William Wright]]==		==[[William Wright]]==
			[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3y0-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=%22%27And+it+is+the+Spirit+which+beareth+witness,+because+Christ+is+truth%22&source=bl&ots=00Z6wG2FDS&sig=ACfU3U363BS3Uzz2KFXm4XCoAXCh41qmhw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjln6_wrIrpAhUlzDgGHSdLBlwQ6AEwAHoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false]]]
	In the [[1881 AD\|1881]] ''[https://books.google.com/books?id=1McUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA139 Cyclopaedia concerning the Epistles of John]'' by [[William Wright]], he wrote:		In the [[1881 AD\|1881]] ''[https://books.google.com/books?id=1McUAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA139 Cyclopaedia concerning the Epistles of John]'' by [[William Wright]], he wrote:
	:It will have been observed that these writers all omit the final clause of the 8th verse, contrary to the authority of all tire Greek manuscripts, and in this they were followed by the Complutensian editors, whose form of the verse we have not before noticed, as it does not appear whether they had any manuscript authority whatever for the clause, which, however, they inserted in their splendid Polyglott edition, begun in 1502 ,finished in 1517, but not published until 1522, wherein it appears in the following form ....		:It will have been observed that these writers all omit the final clause of the 8th verse, contrary to the authority of all tire Greek manuscripts, and in this they were followed by the Complutensian editors, whose form of the verse we have not before noticed, as it does not appear whether they had any manuscript authority whatever for the clause, which, however, they inserted in their splendid Polyglott edition, begun in 1502 ,finished in 1517, but not published until 1522, wherein it appears in the following form ....

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	==References==		==References==
	* 1. Bryennios, Joseph, d. ca. 1437. ''[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nnc1.0037117564 Ta paraleipomena., v.3.]'' Published [Leipzig,1784?] [[Eugenios Voulgaris]]		* 1. Bryennios, Joseph, d. ca. 1437. ''[https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nnc1.0037117564 Ta paraleipomena., v.3.]'' Published [Leipzig,1784?] [[Eugenios Voulgaris]] (1768)

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	[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma Quotation 1768.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios in this 1768 reprint]]		[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma Quotation 1768.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios in this [https://anemi.lib.uoc.gr/php/pdf_pager.php?rec=/metadata/3/8/a/metadata-18-0000008.tkl&do=84217.pdf&pageno=149&width=840&height=595&maxpage=295&lang=el 1768 reprint] by [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]].]]

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	[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3y0-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=%22%27And+it+is+the+Spirit+which+beareth+witness,+because+Christ+is+truth%22&source=bl&ots=00Z6wG2FDS&sig=ACfU3U363BS3Uzz2KFXm4XCoAXCh41qmhw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjln6_wrIrpAhUlzDgGHSdLBlwQ6AEwAHoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false]]]		[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3y0-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=%22%27And+it+is+the+Spirit+which+beareth+witness,+because+Christ+is+truth%22&source=bl&ots=00Z6wG2FDS&sig=ACfU3U363BS3Uzz2KFXm4XCoAXCh41qmhw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjln6_wrIrpAhUlzDgGHSdLBlwQ6AEwAHoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false]]]

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			==Bryennios Citing the Comma==
	[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3y0-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=%22%27And+it+is+the+Spirit+which+beareth+witness,+because+Christ+is+truth%22&source=bl&ots=00Z6wG2FDS&sig=ACfU3U363BS3Uzz2KFXm4XCoAXCh41qmhw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjln6_wrIrpAhUlzDgGHSdLBlwQ6AEwAHoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false]]]		[[Image:Joseph Bryennios Johannine Comma.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Comma Johanneum appears in the 15th century writings of Joseph Bryennios [https://books.google.com.au/books?id=3y0-AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=%22%27And+it+is+the+Spirit+which+beareth+witness,+because+Christ+is+truth%22&source=bl&ots=00Z6wG2FDS&sig=ACfU3U363BS3Uzz2KFXm4XCoAXCh41qmhw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjln6_wrIrpAhUlzDgGHSdLBlwQ6AEwAHoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false]]]

	~~==Bryennios Citing the Comma==~~

	[[Joseph Bryennios]] (Ιωσήφ Βρυέννιος) (1350-1432) wrote in ''[http://digital.lib.auth.gr/record/124794/?ln=en Τόμος Β' / αξιώσει του Υψηλοτάτου και ευσεβεστάτου πρώην ηγεμόνος Μολδοβλαχίας Κυρίου Κυρίου Γρηγορίου Αλεξάνδρου Γκίκα Βοεβόδα δι' επιμελείας Ευγενίου διακόνου του Βουλγάρεως ήδη το πρώτον τύποις εκδοθέντα]'' ([[Joseph Bryennios\|Βρυέννιος, Ιωσήφ]]), [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]]. In which he cites the Johannine Comma:		[[Joseph Bryennios]] (Ιωσήφ Βρυέννιος) (1350-1432) wrote in ''[http://digital.lib.auth.gr/record/124794/?ln=en Τόμος Β' / αξιώσει του Υψηλοτάτου και ευσεβεστάτου πρώην ηγεμόνος Μολδοβλαχίας Κυρίου Κυρίου Γρηγορίου Αλεξάνδρου Γκίκα Βοεβόδα δι' επιμελείας Ευγενίου διακόνου του Βουλγάρεως ήδη το πρώτον τύποις εκδοθέντα]'' ([[Joseph Bryennios\|Βρυέννιος, Ιωσήφ]]), [[Eugenios Voulgaris\|Βούλγαρης, Ευγένιος]]. In which he cites the Johannine Comma:

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	* 6. Καὶ τὸ πνεῦμά ἐστι ...μαρτυροῦν, ὅτι ὁ Χριστός ἐστιν ἡ ἀλήθεια. (Bryennios)		* 6. Καὶ τὸ πνεῦμά ἐστι ...μαρτυροῦν, ὅτι ὁ Χριστός ἐστιν ἡ ἀλήθεια. (Bryennios)
	* 6. καὶ τὸ Πνεῦμά ἐστι τὸ μαρτυροῦν, ὅτι τὸ Πνεῦμά ἐστιν ἡ ἀλήθεια. (Scrivener)		* 6. καὶ τὸ Πνεῦμά ἐστι τὸ μαρτυροῦν, ὅτι τὸ Πνεῦμά ἐστιν ἡ ἀλήθεια. (Scrivener)


	* 7. ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατὴρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον· καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι· (Bryennios)		* 7. ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατὴρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον· καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι· (Bryennios)
	* 7. ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες εν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατήρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ Ἅγιον Πνεῦμα· ...καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι. (Scrivener)		* 7. ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες εν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατήρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ Ἅγιον Πνεῦμα· ...καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι. (Scrivener)


	* 8. καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῇ γῇ, τὸ πνεῦμα, ....τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα· (Bryennios)		* 8. καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῇ γῇ, τὸ πνεῦμα, ....τὸ ὕδωρ, καὶ τὸ αἷμα· (Bryennios)