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 It contains the the Comma in similar wording to that in Ottobonianus, but with a different verb:
 :Quia tres sunt qui in celo testificantus: pater, verbum & spirit sanctus, & hi tres unum sunt. et tres sunt qui in terra testificant, spiritus aqua & sanguis.
 ====[[Complutensian Polyglot]]====

Nick: /* Nicholas Kabasilas */

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Nicholas Kabasilas

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	And what do I say? For in this alone of the divine works was God judged. For of the many beings which God has created from all eternity, you will not find any that is referred to the Father alone or to the Son or to the Spirit, but all are common to the Trinity, for He does all things by one power and providence and creation. But in the economy, He raised up a race for us, and this new thing was made; and our salvation was willed by the Trinity in common, and as if it were to be made, He foresaw; but He does not act in common. For neither '''<u>the Father nor the Spirit is self-acting, but only the Word</u>''', and only the Only-Begotten of blood was conceived and flesh and wounded and suffered and died and rose again, through whom nature revived and to whom baptism was instituted, the new birth and regeneration. Neither of the hypostases, dividing at the divine bath, does God allow us to call, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, the holy creation brought forth, which alone has shown that God is distinct.		:And what do I say? For in this alone of the divine works was God judged. For of the many beings which God has created from all eternity, you will not find any that is referred to the Father alone or to the Son or to the Spirit, but all are common to the Trinity, for He does all things by one power and providence and creation. But in the economy, He raised up a race for us, and this new thing was made; and our salvation was willed by the Trinity in common, and as if it were to be made, He foresaw; but He does not act in common. For neither '''<u>the Father nor the Spirit is self-acting, but only the Word</u>''', and only the Only-Begotten of blood was conceived and flesh and wounded and suffered and died and rose again, through whom nature revived and to whom baptism was instituted, the new birth and regeneration. Neither of the hypostases, dividing at the divine bath, does God allow us to call, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, the holy creation brought forth, which alone has shown that God is distinct.


	====Codex Vaticanus====		====Codex Vaticanus====

Nick: /* Jerome's Vulgate */

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Jerome's Vulgate

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	:''See also [[Johannine Comma and Jerome]]''		:''See also [[Johannine Comma and Jerome]]''

	Jerome (382 A.D.) in his ~~book,~~ ‘Prologue to the Canonical Epistles’, quotes the following when discussing the Johannine Comma that,		Jerome (382 A.D.) in his ‘Prologue to the Canonical Epistles’, he quotes the following when discussing the Johannine Comma that,
	:~~‘…irresponsible~~ translators ~~left out this~~ testimony in the ~~Greek codices~~.’		:‘…unfaithful translators .... omit the testimony of the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit.’

	He further adds the following,		He further adds the following,

Nick: /* Pierre Olivetan */

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Pierre Olivetan

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	====[[Pierre Olivetan]]====		====[[Pierre Olivetan]]====
	[[Pierre Olivetan\|Olivetan]] was the first translator of the French reformed Bible in 1535. He kept the Comma:		[[Pierre Olivetan\|Olivetan]] was the first translator of the French reformed Bible in 1535. He kept the Comma:
	*Car il en y a troys qui donnent tesmoingnage au ciel: le pere, la parolle, et		:Car il en y a troys qui donnent tesmoingnage au ciel: le pere, la parolle, et le sainct esperit, et ces troys sont ung. Aussi en y a trois …
	le sainct esperit, et ces troys sont ung. Aussi en y a trois …

	In the margin he wrote:		In the margin he wrote:
	*Ceste sentence commenceant à Car, jusque à Aussi, ne se trouve point en plusieurs exemplaires anciens, tant Grecz que Latins.		:Ceste sentence commenceant à Car, jusque à Aussi, ne se trouve point en plusieurs exemplaires anciens, tant Grecz que Latins.
	Translated as:		Translated as:
	*This sentence, beginning with Car, up to Also, is not found in several ancient copies, both Greek and Latin.		:This sentence, beginning with Car, up to Also, is not found in several ancient copies, both Greek and Latin.

	====[[Thomas Naogeorgus]]====		====[[Thomas Naogeorgus]]====

Nick at 10:17, 23 July 2026

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	Pseudo-Chrysostom first refers to the Trinity as Father, Word, and Spirit and then switches to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the same sentence. This switch has no contextual reason. Given the abundance of scriptural allusions in this passage, it is most likely that the two forms of the Trinity are both scriptural allusions (Matthew 28:19 & 1 John 5:7).		Pseudo-Chrysostom first refers to the Trinity as Father, Word, and Spirit and then switches to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the same sentence. This switch has no contextual reason. Given the abundance of scriptural allusions in this passage, it is most likely that the two forms of the Trinity are both scriptural allusions (Matthew 28:19 & 1 John 5:7).

	Info from KJV Today.		Info from [https://www.kjvtoday.net KJV Today].

	====Ignatius of Antioch====		====Ignatius of Antioch====

Nick: /* Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) */

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Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)

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	====[[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]]====		====[[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]]====
	[[Image:stunica on 1 John 5.7.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) wrote a half page response to Erasmus concerning the Comma in 1520[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UN5JAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PP115&ots=4jFvm_YexC&dq=Vetus%20tralatio.%20Quoniam%20tres%20sunt%2C%20qui%20testimonium%20dant%20in&pg=PP115#v=onepage&q&f=false].]]		[[Image:stunica on 1 John 5.7.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) wrote a half page response to Erasmus concerning the Comma in 1520[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UN5JAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PP115&ots=4jFvm_YexC&dq=Vetus%20tralatio.%20Quoniam%20tres%20sunt%2C%20qui%20testimonium%20dant%20in&pg=PP115#v=onepage&q&f=false].]]

			:''See also: [[Johannine Comma and Stunica]]''

	In [[1520 AD\|1520]], [[Complutensian Polyglot]] editor [[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]] wrote a half page response to [[Erasmus]] concerning the Comma.		In [[1520 AD\|1520]], [[Complutensian Polyglot]] editor [[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]] wrote a half page response to [[Erasmus]] concerning the Comma.

Nick at 11:28, 14 July 2026

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	====Jerome's Vulgate====		====Jerome's Vulgate====

			:''See also [[Johannine Comma and Jerome]]''

	Jerome (382 A.D.) in his book, ‘Prologue to the Canonical Epistles’, quotes the following when discussing the Johannine Comma that,		Jerome (382 A.D.) in his book, ‘Prologue to the Canonical Epistles’, quotes the following when discussing the Johannine Comma that,
	:‘…irresponsible translators left out this testimony in the Greek codices.’		:‘…irresponsible translators left out this testimony in the Greek codices.’

Nick: /* Priscillian */

2026-07-09T11:06:54Z

Priscillian

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	====[[Priscillian]]====		====[[Priscillian]]====
	In [[380 AD]] in Spain [[Priscillian]] (or one of his associates) referred to the Comma:		In [[380 AD]] in Spain [[Priscillian]] (or one of his associates) referred to the Comma:

			:“Tria sunt quae testimonium dicunt in terra: aqua caro et sanguis et haec tria in unum sunt. Et tria sunt quae testimonium dicent '''<u>in caelo: Pater Verbum et Spiritus et haec tria unum sunt</u>''' in Christo Iesu.” <small>[Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]</small>

			Translated as:

	:“There are three that bear witness on earth: the water, in the flesh, and the blood: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness '''<u>in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and these three are one</u>''' in Christ Jesus.”		:“There are three that bear witness on earth: the water, in the flesh, and the blood: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness '''<u>in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Spirit, and these three are one</u>''' in Christ Jesus.”
	:“Tria sunt quae testimonium dicunt in terra: aqua caro et sanguis et haec tria in unum sunt. Et tria sunt quae testimonium dicent '''<u>in caelo: Pater Verbum et Spiritus et haec tria unum sunt</u>''' in Christo Iesu.” <sup>[Corpus Scriptorum Ecclesiasticorum Latinorum, Academia Litterarum Vindobonensis, vol. xviii, p. 6.]</sup>

	The earthly witnesses mentioned here have the “flesh” in place of the usual reading of “spirit” (Spirit) in the [[Textus Receptus]].		The earthly witnesses mentioned here have the “flesh” in place of the usual reading of “spirit” (Spirit) in the [[Textus Receptus]].[https://baptistsearch.blogspot.com/2021/03/priscillian-of-avila-and-johannine-comma.html]

	====Jerome's Vulgate====		====Jerome's Vulgate====

Nick: /* Potamius of Lisbon */

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Potamius of Lisbon

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 ====Potamius of Lisbon====
+:''See Main Article: [[Johannine Comma and Potamius of Lisbon]]''
 ====Basil====

Nick: /* Basil */

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Basil

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 :Factum est hoc, hem quid ais? si Altissimus poenam illatae famulo injuriae a sorore Prophetide repoposcit, eo quod minus aeque de ipso sensisset, quis iniquam de Filio Majestatis congitationem cum impunitatis spe suscipiat? quisve non vereatur illum, a quo genitus est, ignem consumentem, unde emicant fulgura, et linguae flammantes, cui si protervi isti Scrutatores componantur, festuca minima res et levissima sunt; cuique in promptu est disceptatores et contensiosos quasi stipulas et vepres concremare. Poenam tulit similem Giezius, qui Prophetam illudere conatus, ipse egregie illusus fuit, cum magistrum vellet capere, captus est. Subdoli Scrutatores vulgo imponere volunt, quo et ipse trinis nominibus baptizare volunt : trium testium consona testificatione judicia constant, tres hic audis testes, quorum testimonio omnis dirimitur quaestio. Jam eritne aliquis, qui sanctissimos sui baptismi testes habeat suspectos? <small>Table of Contents read: Eighty Rythms upon the Faith, against the Disputers. [adv. Scrut.] (t. iii. p. 1) Eighty Rhythms upon the Faith, against the Disputers, 28:7, translated into English by Rev. J. B. Morris, Select Works of S. Ephrem the Syrian (Oxford:, 1847)</small>[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=ngtFAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA247&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false]
 ====Basil====
-The Comma and Matthew 28:19 mentioned concerning Basil in 350 AD in Adversus Eunomium Book V : Paris 1839 p.446-447
+The Comma and [[Matthew 28:19]] mentioned concerning Basil in [[350 AD]] in Adversus Eunomium Book V: Paris 1839 p.446-447
 :446. Ταῖς θείαις γραφαῖς ἐναντιούμενοι· τί δὲ

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	====[[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]]====		====[[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]]====
	[[Image:stunica on 1 John 5.7.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) wrote a half page response to Erasmus concerning the Comma in 1520[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UN5JAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PP115&ots=4jFvm_YexC&dq=Vetus%20tralatio.%20Quoniam%20tres%20sunt%2C%20qui%20testimonium%20dant%20in&pg=PP115#v=onepage&q&f=false].]]		[[Image:stunica on 1 John 5.7.jpg\|thumb\|right\|x300\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica) wrote a half page response to Erasmus concerning the Comma in 1520[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=UN5JAAAAcAAJ&lpg=PP115&ots=4jFvm_YexC&dq=Vetus%20tralatio.%20Quoniam%20tres%20sunt%2C%20qui%20testimonium%20dant%20in&pg=PP115#v=onepage&q&f=false].]]

			:''See also: [[Johannine Comma and Stunica]]''

	In [[1520 AD\|1520]], [[Complutensian Polyglot]] editor [[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]] wrote a half page response to [[Erasmus]] concerning the Comma.		In [[1520 AD\|1520]], [[Complutensian Polyglot]] editor [[Stunica\|Diego López de Zúñiga (Stunica)]] wrote a half page response to [[Erasmus]] concerning the Comma.